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Brett has a unique story of how he went from a normal college student, to $10,000 gambling debt, and now he’s a marketing catalyst for law firms and small businesses.
Following him coming forward to his family about his debt, Brett then left the University of Alabama to start working 50 hour weeks at Chick-Fil-A to start paying back his gambling while also being a full time student at a community college.
Brett continued to struggle to find his passion before he began working for LegalEase Marketing as a project manager. Since then, Brett has not only found early success in his time but his passion for what he wants to do for a career.
The right habits puts you in control of your health, relationships, mindset, and more. But most people lack the tools to stick with those habits long enough to see results that is about to change. Welcome to the unshakable habits podcast with your host, habit change specialist and speaker Stephen Box. Join us each week as experts share their stories, experiences and insights and give you the tools to build unshakable habits so you can live life on your terms. It's time to take your habits from unsustainable to unshakable.
Stephen Box 0:46
Welcome to the unshakable habits Podcast. I am your host, Stephen Box. And I'm joined today by Brent Eisenberg, the marketing catalyst. Brett, thanks for joining me, man. Thanks for having me, man. How are you doing today? I'm doing really well and yourself. Doing well doing well can't complain. Awesome. Awesome. And even if you did, who would listen? right? Exactly, exactly. So before we jump into your story today, and I do want to just let people know that you definitely want to hear this story. Because I think it's something that a lot of people are going to be able to relate to even if they've never been in your exact situation. There is a framework that we like to utilize when looking at the stories. So every time that we see a success story, it usually starts with a vision. And that vision is not something that just magically comes about. It's something that usually happens over time, it's usually a series of circumstances that help us create that vision. And it's different from a goal because the goal is when you're trying to achieve a specific outcome. A vision is literally what you imagine your life looking like, it's when you hit a low point, and you're picturing something better. And that's what you're striving for. So as birthstone historia de look for them with some moments where his vision started to get formed. Once he has his vision, the next thing that's going to happen is you're going to see that he had to develop certain skills. Now those might be skills here and he had, they might be skills he still needs to develop. So be on the lookout for what skills Brad had to either utilize or acquire to reach his vision. And then finally, for those skills he had to build, what actions did he have to take in order to do that, because ultimately, it is our actions that build the skills, it is our skills to help us move towards the vision. And that is how things become consistent and we create unshakable habits. So, Brent, let's start with your story. And I think the starting of your story is somewhere where a lot of people are going to feel familiar. Here you are just a regular college student. Yeah. So at the University of Alabama, tell. So you're going to the University of Alabama, life is good, right? I mean, you've got you get out of life in front of you, you've probably got these granity these great plans.
Brett Eisenberg 3:34
Yeah, I was heavily involved in all these organizations. And I thought the thing is, on the side, I developed that that small thing, which was actually ended up being a huge thing, which was $10,000 gambling debt, that I kind of like completely, like, brushed off to the side. Like if you knew me at the University of Alabama, would have no idea that like, I haven't, like had like that issue because like I just completely like kinda like, live my life and just kind of like, put it behind me without even like focusing on it. Until like, I kind of had to face that issue.
Stephen Box 4:15
So let's, let's rewind there for a second. So you can't just like dump on everybody. They like, Hey, I was gambling debt, right? Like, how did how did that happen? Because I know this was something that you're you have a little bit of passionate about is, is educating and especially younger people on the dangers of gambling, because there's so much pressure out there and we don't necessarily see it. So can you take us through what happened with you? How did they start?
Brett Eisenberg 4:45
So I really actually kind of started my senior year of high school, just throwing little $15 bets on the Phillies here and there just regular stuff. And then I started moving to college and I do I really started getting involved I was throwing for college football, I would end up betting what they would call the line. So I throw on almost every single college football game on Saturdays. I beat on almost 1000s of dollars out a day. It was extremely unhealthy. I was living on edge, like every night watching games like hoping that like waiting for like my, the agent to text me asking for the money. So it was just like a super unhealthy way to live. But at the same time, I was also living this whole nother life focusing still somehow getting schoolwork done. And also, like having a social life like living my life as like a regular fraternity and a regular student at the University of Alabama. So it was very, like crazy how like, I just went from like just those small bets to like, all of a sudden betting 1000s of dollars that like a time.
Stephen Box 6:01
Yeah. It's funny that you mentioned it that way. Because one thing that I always try to teach people when it comes to habits, I mean, if you think about a habit, by definition, it's something that we do on a routine basis, oftentimes without awareness. And, you know, we want to think of, you know, habits is, you know, good or bad or whatever. But the thing is, the difference between a good habit in a bad habit is whether it's beneficial to or not outside of that there is no difference between the two. And so, just the same way that a good habit can build up over time. And once you hit a certain point, it snowballs, a bad habit can do the exact same thing to you.
Brett Eisenberg 6:49
Oh, 100% 100% it's, it's really like, and that's why I realized because I went from having that like, constant like betting mindset, like I'd be like in class, like, end up throwing bats to like, when I came home and had to start working and paying that debt back to just working constantly 50 hour weeks at chick fil a like they asked me stay. Amen. Like constantly working constantly grinding, just to like even even though it was minimum wage job was step by step it was, it was just anything to try and like get to that point. And that was like just what my mindset my focus was on.
Stephen Box 7:34
Yeah. Now, when you talk about, you know, getting out of this debt, me, you kind of talked about how you had to, you know, come back home, start working in chick fil a full time, and you're putting in all these hours to try to get it paid off. But what did What did it look like when you finally gained awareness of the problem that you had? Like, how did that actually come about?
Brett Eisenberg 7:59
So actually came about when I was actually just continuing to live my life during this summer, I was in New York. And one of the people who I owed money to actually reached out to my brother, and my brother was the one who like was like, Okay, this has to be a serious issue. If this is just one person reaching out to me, how many more else could there be? And then from there, he reached out to my mom, they, we all had like a huge discussion about it. We worked out how I was going to end up paying it off and what I was going to do to like pay that back. And I understood that it was going to take time, like it was a $10,000 like debt. Like it's not something that like any college students able to just like kind of pull out of their pocket. So um, so I ended up just like working to pay that back just constantly, like I said, just that mindset of grinding working hard. And that's, that's all I like, put my mind towards.
Stephen Box 9:05
Yeah. So talk to us a little bit here about what did that moment feel like for you? I mean, Now, first of all I have to ask was it was this like, just like, some guy was just like, politely calling and saying like, Hey, you know, your brother knows this the money or was this like a like, Hey, we're gonna like take him up, like hang him off the side of a building upside down kind of thing. Like what?
Brett Eisenberg 9:32
Now it wasn't it wasn't threatening call. Um, it was like, it was like, Yeah, because they because they it was it was like, it was like, friends of friends of friends. So it was like, um, they weren't going it was like, we just want like, it wasn't like I owed all the money to one person. That was the SEO. So it was like, it was almost a couple 100 to this person. So he was like, hey, like I just want to let you know like your brother is a made like a couple $100 for a while, like. So I mean, like, um, when I look back on it, I'm almost like thankful because when I look at the situation like, as much as that was like, that was like such a stressor that was like, all my shoulders, I wasn't able to like really enjoy my summer or really enjoyed, kind of my year fully, because I've had that. So once like all that was out, and I had the mindset of just working to pay that back. It was like a huge, because I really didn't tell like a single person what was going on? Cuz I didn't really know where to go.
Stephen Box 10:41
And I'm glad that you get that you mentioned that because I think something that a lot of times people will struggle with, is they have a hard time with a certain habit. And what ends up happening is they think they can fix it themselves. Right? We always think we can fix it ourselves. Yeah, 100%. And oftentimes, we can't we have to reach out to someone, whether that's a professional coach, whether that's a family member, a friend that we can, you know, confide in whatever the case is, we need an external support system, at least in the beginning. Because we are now in this pattern. And it's very hard for you to become aware and break a pattern on your own. kind of talk to me a little bit about what what did it feel like, when your family first found out about this problem, like what was going through your mind as they're coming to you and kind of kind of confronting you with what was going on. Um,
Brett Eisenberg 11:53
I didn't really know what they were necessarily thinking. Because I think for a while because I was like, hiding, like, stuff money wise, I think like my parents honestly thought I was like, until, like selling drugs. By I ended by I think, like, once we had the discussion, like after discussion, we I just kind of laid everything out on the table. And we had everything like kind of figured out, it was a little bit more comforting. Because I Well, I'm not even a little bit a lot more comforting, because there's, like I said, it's like something that I was stressing about, sometimes losing sleep over, like, for over a year. So when I got to the point where like I had it figured out, at least I know what I'm going to do I have a plan. And I had this vision of what how I'm going to pay this off. Like that was like kind of the step one towards like my goal, ultimately.
Stephen Box 13:02
So for those who are listening to this or watching us over on YouTube, my key takeaway for you here that I want you to write down is that you need a strong support system. So if you have a family like Brad, who is very supportive of you, that is obviously a fantastic thing to have. Not everyone has it, unfortunately. So if you do find yourself in a position where that's not the case, either surround yourself with friends who are going to support you seek out the help of professionals, whatever you need to do. But if you find yourself in a situation where you are really struggling with something that is holding you back in preventing you from living the life you want, you need to surround yourself with a strong support system. First and foremost. You agree with that, Brett? Oh, 100%
Brett Eisenberg 14:07
I mean, without a strong support system, you you just kind of feel alone, because that's how most how I felt like throughout that entire like, situation, but the entire time like I wasn't alone, and I could have relied on everyone else. However, I chose not to because I almost wanted to figure this out by myself. I didn't want to involve everyone i or i thought i could because I was 20 or 19 year old college student thinking that like I was in trouble.
Stephen Box 14:40
And for those of you who are 18 or 19 or will be soon. Please understand that we all thought we're invincible. Yeah, and it was we're No not really. Oh, yeah, I wish it It's a bit of an ego blow, but it is absolutely necessary to understand that you are human like anyone else, and that you're capable of doing some miraculous things in life, but you're not capable of doing everything.
Brett Eisenberg 15:19
Exactly, exactly. 100%. And, and that's the and that's the whole thing is picking and choosing everyone's a, like capable doing, like, anything that they want to do with their life. I really, truly believe that. Man, it's the thing about like, how you're going to vision and put your focus towards it. And, you know, take the steps towards of action on how you're going to reach your goal. Yep.
Stephen Box 15:49
So kind of looking at your situation, your family now knows about your debt, you sit down, you come up with a plan to pay it off. And obviously, one of the skills that you already had that I'm sure your family helped to instill in you was a good work ethic. Yes. And so you set out a plan to go get a job, even though it was a minimum wage job, and you dedicated all of this time to paying off this debt. So now, I want people to realize here that in order to work enough hours at chick fil a to pay off a $10,000 debt, you were working a lot of hours, which means your social life furnish went away. For a while. Yep. Yeah. So all of these things that you had grown accustomed to all the things that a 20 some year old kid loves to do. You now had to give all of that stuff up.
Brett Eisenberg 16:50
Yep. That was, that was a very big thing that I had to really get adjusted to, because it almost turned out that chick fil a was almost like my social life. Oh, my breaks when I'm talking to my co workers, because that was that was really legit. Like, actually it like I came, I was like, come home, I would then do schoolwork, go to sleep, wake out 5:45am Go straight and check flying, start working. And that was just every single day. And except for Sundays. That was the that was a huge benefit, except for Sundays. But I but I'm not gonna lie, like a lot part of my I learned a lot like while I was out check, fly with how to completely focus and have that work ethic that I ended up winning like employee of the month, one month, and that I ended up being promoted to like a team leader. So I ended up getting paid a little bit more than one minimum wage. So it was really just like, a huge, it was a great experience for us this I would say for sure. Because I think that's where I learned actually a ton about myself and my own work ethic. And well, I really have the capability of doing.
Stephen Box 18:11
Yeah. So kind of talk about what I'm hearing is that you already had a lot of the skills in place, you just weren't necessarily utilizing all of them. And when you got to chick fil a, you started tapping into some of these skills that you already had. So just and you might need a second here to think about this. But in terms of going and thinking about the actions and the skills that you needed to do when you are AAA that allowed you to be the employee the month that allows you to get that promotion and get paid more. What were those skills, so someone's find themselves in your situation, they're really struggling, maybe they're at a job, they don't really like that much because it's only a minimum wage job. What were those skills for you? That allowed you to excel? Because now somebody could take those skills? Even if they don't have them yet? Yeah, they can start to develop them.
Brett Eisenberg 19:06
100%. So those skills actually are outside of the job recommendation. Those are, I would say one is leading by example, when you aren't even called on I was just a regular team member and I started if there was a new person struggling, I would just like take initiative and help them out. I knew what had to be done during the day. Like I kind of just acted as a team leader when I wasn't so I think that was a huge part. And another large part I would definitely say is um, oh wait, I actually need to think about this one.
Stephen Box 19:47
Why, why you're thinking about it. If you if you can talk and think at the same time. Yeah. One thing you said was and this is another unshakable key that you're my everybody might want Write down. Act like a leader before you're a leader. Yes. So I wouldn't What does being a leader look like?
Brett Eisenberg 20:10
Being a leader is just taking initiative, you know, I'm a my other point, they kind of go hand in hand is coming in with that leader attitude. I mean, it's completely over the top. But I mean, it might not be my attitude outside of chick fil a. However, when I walked into that building, I would walk in there with a smile on my face, I would say, how's everyone doing? Like, like, Who's ready for a great day, and just kind of taking that initiative to kind of set up that culture into, like, that whole kind of make work? Not that miserable? Like, I'm ready to clock out? This isn't so bad. You know? Yeah, like, we're having kind of some fun here. So it's, it's about like, kind of bringing that culture into, into the business. And sometimes you have to do that on your own.
Stephen Box 21:00
Yeah, and it's something that you just kind of hit on there. I actually did an interview with somebody yesterday. And I don't know if that interview is gonna get played before after yours. But we were talking about your subconscious thoughts. And a lot of people when they try to do positivity, it's surface level. So it's like, oh, I'm going to go to work. And I'm going to try to be positive. But the thing is, if deep down, if you hate going to work, and you hate your job, you can do all the positive affirmations you want. Yeah, not gonna do you any good. So really, what you developed wasn't just a positive mindset. But it was literally you became like, an entirely different person. When you went to work, you you embodied this leadership ideal. This you had a vision, we could even say, from Yeah, a leader should look like. And when you apply that, that vision.
Brett Eisenberg 22:00
Yeah, I think that was, that was definitely a huge thing that like I now like, when I look back, I definitely realized is that like, when I would, I would like sit in the car, I would always be at work like a little bit early. And I would send the car kind of listening to music and not gonna lie a little bit hyping myself up for the day. And I'd be like, you know what, I'm ready to go in. And then I'd like clock in early, I would always just be like, you know, and just kind of get through the day. That's what I just kind of looked at it as just kind of, if I can make it seem like, I'm having fun. And everyone and I can make these people who are a lot of these people, like my co workers are high school kids. So they were like having fun with me. So when everyone's having fun, the guests are having fun. They're like, not miserable, even waiting in the long line. Because like, we're not like kinda like when you come to like chick fil a, you don't hear the Hi, welcome, in chick fil a, I help you. Like, it's kind of like a little bit more exciting. So it kind of just made gave it a little bit better experience for everyone. And that just kind of been part of like implementing that into like my mindset.
Stephen Box 23:13
Yeah, and for those poor unfortunate people who have never had the benefit of having a chick fil a near them. First of all, I'm so sorry for you. Did you miss out, but generally is known for their customer service. They're known for how friendly The staff is. So what Brad's talking about here is not just his own belief, but the company culture certainly helped out with that, which kind of, I think highlights another important thing, which is not only do you need a strong support system, you need to put yourself in environments that actually are conducive to what you want to accomplish.
Brett Eisenberg 24:00
100% and one of the and another thing is that goes along with that experience at chick fil a was kind of like tapping into a little bit of what my interests were, they kind of let me when I became that team leader, they kind of let me look into like different aspects of the management. We had a someone who's in charge of marketing, who like sometimes I would be able to talk to about like what she does, or whoever was in charge of like employee relations, like I would always be able to talk to them about what they do. And it was just a really, overall pretty really good experience to be able to tap into all those different fields. And still while being able to take this leadership and make money and still pay that gambling debt back. So it really making that my life for about a year actually turned out to be a little bit a large benefit.
Stephen Box 25:00
So just to kind of recap this for people. So it would have been really easy for people to look at this and say, okay, he went to work at chick fil a for a year work really hard paid off his debt, that's great. But they would be missing, that there were some really key things that happened here. So the first thing is, you had a strong support system that enabled you to take the next steps. You want to put yourself in an environment that actually encouraged the things that were already strong belief within you, then you made a decision to not just go in and work because you could have very easily shown up to work every day with the mindset of I'm just here to pay these bills, right? Yeah. And instead, you went in with a goal to make your life better. And in order to do that you had to constantly re evaluate yourself, you had to check your your attitude, you had to see what your mindset was each day, you had to be intentional about the way you treated other people the way that you were outwardly toward people, which starts internally. And so you really utilize all of these skills, to put yourself in a better situation. And now coming out of chick fil a, you've utilized these skills, you've done them consistently, they've become your unshakable habits. How did those apply to your life after chick fil a?
Brett Eisenberg 26:32
So I'm following chick fil a, I actually ended up working a little bit at PNC Bank, as a bank teller, um, I really actually did apply those habits kind of like that attitude. Um, it didn't really get me as far though, I was very miserable. Um, and I then just like really just like, wanting to focus on finding my passion. I was majoring in sociology, and I had still no clue what I wanted to do. My brother Greg, he was starting a business called legally marketing. And he reached out to me saying, hey, like, we have some like, basic work that like, like we can have you do like kind of introduce you to some of it just like posting and like on social media. And from there, I just started, I started tapping into making graphics, I started looking into like certifications with Google ads. And I really started loving the idea of either like, building a brand for someone and almost marketing and managing their social media. Like whether it's like cutting podcasts and making like, graphics for them or creating thumbnails just going from there just just managing social media overall, I found like a really strong passion for overall for building like brands.
Stephen Box 28:09
So you found your passion here, what was that, that moment for you? And you kind of realized, you know, what this is what I actually want to do like was there was there a single moment for you, were kind of dawned on you that you finally found that passion.
Brett Eisenberg 28:25
Um, I really struggled to for a lot of it, I was trying to figure out what I was necessarily really good at. And even in the beginning, I was having tons of success with my client with everyone was reaching out to him saying they either love who'd like this social media post or loves the graphics. And from there I was like, You know what, I can actually really dig making like graphics I really like putting my creativity at work. And you know, managing social media posts and I love watching like, like their engagement almost go up because it's like, almost like watching it's almost part of like my own, like watching my social media go up because it's like me managing their posts. So it's really like a very, like, a huge satisfaction of like victory when you see like a lot of success.
Stephen Box 29:23
Yeah, one thing I love that you that you pointed out there, one of my mentors actually talked about this a couple years ago, is so often we kind of get caught up in this idea that we're supposed to always say yes to everything. Or that we're supposed to be you're super focused and then say no to everything. And then we act like there's no in between, right? Yeah. And what he says hey, you know what, early in your career, you should absolutely say yes to everything. Why? Because you don't know what it is that you're good at or what you love, yet. And then once you find what you're good at, that's when you start to say no to things. Because now you want to focus on just what you're really passionate about doing. And so I love how when we look at your story, here you are, you're someone, and I don't want to gloss over this, I want people to really understand how this is. You were essentially a college dropout. $10,000 debt. And most people at that point would look at you and say, he's a failure. 100% I mean, you know, who'd been so easy for you to have just kind of said, you know, what, I've screwed up my life. Oh, well, here's what it is. I'm just, I'm just going to sit here and just eat miserable for the rest of my life. Right? Yeah. 100, instead, you went to work, you get the debt paid off, you didn't just take the job and treat it as a job you actually learn, you actually applied your skills, you learn new skills, you develop yourself, you took on multiple opportunities, you weren't afraid to look at something like working at the bank and realize that you made a mistake, and change course with it. And you stuck with it until you actually found what your passion was. And I have a lot of respect for the fact that you were willing to constantly just keep pushing yourself pushing yourself pushing yourself, where a lot of people might have taken a step back and said, Yeah, things just didn't go well. For me, I got dealt a bad hand or I made one bad decision, and I'm paying for for the rest of my life kind of thing. And you didn't do that. Instead, you're like, Hey, you know what I can push through and I can I can make this happen.
Brett Eisenberg 31:48
Now 100%, I think that a lot of people when they look at the full story, and they see, like you said, the gambling that and college drop out, they're like, oh, that kid's like, kind of has nothing really going for him. However, there's so much more that can happen. When you're 19 years old, you can come back from that you as long as you find that vision and you plan out the steps. And you kind of go from betting on sports to betting on yourself. And you work forward. And you take on the opportunities that you want, that can help give you experience and any of the fields that you want in. So I think that really you can't go wrong in taking any opportunity
Stephen Box 32:42
that's offered. Me I tell you, I think you just gave me the the title for your podcast episode. They're going from betting on sports to betting on himself. That is That's good stuff right there, man. Well, yeah, if you if you didn't write that down in your notebook, you need to go and work on your note taking skills, okay, like, because that is a golden nugget right there.
Brett Eisenberg 33:14
100%. And I, I love that saying I really do. And I'm actually going to be starting a podcast within the next couple months. Kind of about overcoming those obstacles. And like kind of taking that alternative route, and whatever it could and doing whatever could take to just like reach that success. Awesome, man.
Stephen Box 33:40
So great. Speaking of things that you have coming up, if people want to get in touch with you, what is the best way for them to do that?
Brett Eisenberg 33:50
So I would say the best way again, touch with me is Brett at legal ease marketing comm you can find me on LinkedIn, I brought Eisenberg or on Instagram at bright underscore Eisenberg, I answered pretty quickly. So you're more than welcome to reach out for any tips or if you're looking for any support, I'm always open.
Stephen Box 34:14
And I know one thing that we kind of talked about when we did our initial interview before this was you're really passionate about bringing awareness to the dangers of gambling to young people. So would you like to close us out here with just a message that you want to give to any young people out there who might not understand just how exactly it is that they're being marketed to you right now in terms of gambling?
Brett Eisenberg 34:44
100% so I think that as like, when you're 18 and 19 years old, there's there's no issue I don't think there's necessarily an issue with like, if you're a gambling, like it's not like Shame on you. However, when you're that young, you don't necessarily understand the concept of how much money you might be gambling, and how deep you could get sucked in. For an example, when you're watching just sports overall, nowadays, you see commercials that are just promoting gambling, do you think like high schoolers and like, middle schoolers are watching sports and seeing like, I can turn $20 for free into $200. If Joel embiid scores one basket tonight, like, it's just an easy way to get sucked in. I think it's just building awareness, just if you are involved in just like kind of like making sure that you don't get to that level where there is not necessarily no going back. Because you can always come back from no matter what the situation is, I really, truly believe that. But I'm just not getting to the point where you have that issue that I found myself in.
Stephen Box 36:02
Yeah, absolutely. And something that you can pointed out there. And I want to make sure to highlight this. You know, when we talk about creating unshakable habits, deep these marketers, they understand about creating habits also, also, when you're seeing these commercials, and they're like, Oh, you know, you get a free account? Or do you eat first $20 for free. And if you ever really pay attention, you'll notice that most of the time those bets, almost always will pay off. Like very rarely where you lose on that first bit. And what they're counting on, they're basically saying we're willing to give you this $200 as marketing, because we know that once you've made this $200 you're much more likely to come back and continue gambling. And it's that that dopamine hit comes in, wins, you lose.
Brett Eisenberg 37:01
Yeah, you're just like, Am I optimized down now I have three accounts events like oh, and just downhill from there. So it's really just kind of keeping track and like making sure that you're not getting into that hole. And, um, and if you are in that hole, I'm looking for that support system and going from betting on sports, to betting on yourself and focusing on yourself and trying to better yourself for any standpoint, whether it's work experience or educational experience, learn something about yourself travel, to just kind of do something to better yourself instead of trying to gamble on whether the Blue Jays are going to score six runs in the first five innings of the game.
Stephen Box 37:52
One of the first rules of creating unshakable habits is to focus on controlling what you can control. And what you can't control how many runs Blue Jays are gonna score. No matter what.
Brett Eisenberg 38:11
No matter what you're setting in what you're eating. No, no superstitions to get help. I'm really sorry. I hate to break that news.
Stephen Box 38:19
Yeah, if you if you're if you're sitting out there wearing your lucky socks right now, because it's playing tonight. Not gonna help. Yeah, tough luck. Bob works for you. works for you. I mean, he looks she'll wear your lucky socks if they make you feel good, but just Yeah, really doesn't matter. It doesn't really ever. Yeah. Your wife if your wife accidentally washes your lucky socks, don't don't don't Yeah, don't cry too much. Bread. Appreciate you coming on today, man. Really appreciate all the nuggets that you dropped on us. And I just want to remind people that you can catch the show on YouTube. You can subscribe to my channel by going to unshakable habits comm slash YouTube. You can also catch us on any of your favorite podcast stations. So this is Stephen Box reminding you that yes, you can be unshakable even if you have zero willpower. 100%
Brett Eisenberg 39:25
I thank you so much for having me on today. I really had a great time.
Stephen Box 39:30
Absolutely. And hopefully we can do this again. Sometimes maybe on your podcast in the future.
Brett Eisenberg 39:36
Oh 100%. I love to have you on.
Stephen Box 39:40
I will talk to you soon and we'll see everybody next week for a new episode of unshakable habits podcast. Sounds good.
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